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Re: OT? –> Nuke Mecca: And other sane ideas for world peace

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:57:25 -0500, rrevved <ed_b…@nope.com> wrote:
>http://www.politicalusa.com/columnists/guest_columns/wheeler_005_prin…

>Nuke Mecca
>And other sane ideas for world peace

>By Dr. Jack Wheeler
>Sunday, September 16, 2001

[snip]

Nukes are such fun! Aren’t they Ed?

brad

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20 Responses to “Re: OT? –> Nuke Mecca: And other sane ideas for world peace”

  1. admin says:

    rrevved wrote:

    > http://www.politicalusa.com/columnists/guest_columns/wheeler_005_prin

    The only viable solution I see is to nuke the whole world. I mean the whole concept of life is
    pointless anyway, if we’d annihilate Earth that would put an end to the
    suffering of all humankind.

    tooth.

  2. admin says:

    On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:27:48 GMT, ToothyByte <nom…@mediaone.net>
    wrote:

    >rrevved wrote:

    >> http://www.politicalusa.com/columnists/guest_columns/wheeler_005_prin

    >The only viable solution I see is to nuke the whole world. I mean the whole concept of life is
    >pointless anyway, if we’d annihilate Earth that would put an end to the
    >suffering of all humankind.

    >tooth.

    Very Camusian.
    Don’t forget chocolate ice-cream, I mean, surely that’s worth staying
    alive for?

    brad

  3. admin says:

    rrevved wrote:
    > http://www.politicalusa.com/columnists/guest_columns/wheeler_005_prin

    > Nuke Mecca
    > And other sane ideas for world peace

    Discussing such things in a gamers newsgroup brings up the following
    questions.
    Are we more likely to say "Go Nukes Go!" because we are only gamers? Or are we
    more likely to say "You got to be #U(K!N@ Crazy!" because we are game players
    and know what that can do.

    "Strange game. The only way to win is not to play. Would you like a nice game
    of chess?"

    Gandalf  Parker
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic

  4. admin says:

    "Lemming" <l3ms…@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

    news:ikcfqtkpjsti814b9cjqk2824nn1e7n4cs@4ax.com…
    > Brad Martin <b…@zakalwe.demon.co.uk> wrote:

    > >On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:27:48 GMT, ToothyByte <nom…@mediaone.net>
    > >wrote:

    > >>rrevved wrote:

    http://www.politicalusa.com/columnists/guest_columns/wheeler_005_prin

    > >>The only viable solution I see is to nuke the whole world. I mean the

    whole concept of life is

    > >>pointless anyway, if we’d annihilate Earth that would put an end to the
    > >>suffering of all humankind.

    > >>tooth.

    > >Very Camusian.
    > >Don’t forget chocolate ice-cream, I mean, surely that’s worth staying
    > >alive for?

    > Purple.  Purple ice-cream.  That’s your favourite flavour, remember.

    Rollmop herring ice-cream?

  5. admin says:

    Really, you guys would stay alive for icecream? Pfffffff…..
    I think I’ll stay alive just to see what happens next…
    Mmmmmmmmmm….

    - Chris

  6. admin says:

    I still say building solar power sats built of metals and silicon in orbit,
    from naturally occuring materials there, microwaving this this energy down
    here to build the ‘hydrogen economy’ from cracked water is the way to go.
    Use oil to make things, not burn it.

    "Gandalf Parker" <"postmaster"@[127.0.0.1] (spam THIS sucker!)> wrote in
    message news:tqfg913omi1u50@news.supernews.com…

    > rrevved wrote:

    http://www.politicalusa.com/columnists/guest_columns/wheeler_005_prin

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    > > Nuke Mecca
    > > And other sane ideas for world peace

    > Discussing such things in a gamers newsgroup brings up the following
    > questions.
    > Are we more likely to say "Go Nukes Go!" because we are only gamers? Or
    are we
    > more likely to say "You got to be #U(K!N@ Crazy!" because we are game
    players
    > and know what that can do.

    > "Strange game. The only way to win is not to play. Would you like a nice
    game
    > of chess?"

    > Gandalf  Parker
    > comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic

  7. admin says:

    I see one flaw in your logic.  We would never want to put ourselves in
    such a position as to threaten to nuke Mecca.  Nuking Mecca would place
    us at war with the ENTIRE Moslem world.  AFAIK, it is the duty of each
    and every male Moslem to make a pilgrimage to Mecca sometime in their
    lifetime.  It is a requirement of their religion. Nuking Mecca would give
    each and every Moslem a PERSONAL reason to war against us. Furthermore,
    it would simply be rebuilt and certainly would not in anyway decimate or
    dismantle the Moslem religion.  It would galvanize them as much as the
    WTC or Pearl Harbor has done so for us.

  8. admin says:

    You forget, smart boy, that these terrorist call themselves
    Moslims, but in fact they aren’t. They just need an excuse to
    fight.

    You want to place US vs Islam ? There’s quite a lot of them, ya know…

  9. admin says:

    rrevved wrote:
    > http://www.politicalusa.com/columnists/guest_columns/wheeler_005_prin

    > Nuke Mecca
    > And other sane ideas for world peace

        Juding from the cross posting here, I think the answer is obvois-

        Put Sid Mier in charge of all Allied Forces, build about 50 Xwing Star
    Fighers, supported by 4 Squadrens of Block 52 F16′s, some arms traders to
    supply Xray Lasers, and draft the west’s polulation of CounterStrike Players,
    and we win.

        War won. Now, can we go back to exterimnating the population of Alpha
    Centuri?

  10. admin says:

    In article <slrn9qgf89.76g.punis…@xs4.xs4all.nl>, martin wrote:
    >You forget, smart boy, that these terrorist call themselves
    >Moslims, but in fact they aren’t. They just need an excuse to
    >fight.

    >You want to place US vs Islam ? There’s quite a lot of them, ya know…

    Yeah, but once you nuke Mecca, there won’t *be* any more Muslims.

  11. admin says:

    In article <slrn9qgvi5.6ap.stand…@min.net>, Joseph Huesmann wrote:
    > In article <slrn9qgf89.76g.punis…@xs4.xs4all.nl>, martin wrote:
    >>You forget, smart boy, that these terrorist call themselves
    >>Moslims, but in fact they aren’t. They just need an excuse to
    >>fight.

    >>You want to place US vs Islam ? There’s quite a lot of them, ya know…

    > Yeah, but once you nuke Mecca, there won’t *be* any more Muslims.

    Instead, you get angry ex-muslims. Not exactly an improvement.

  12. admin says:

    In article <slrn9qgvi5.6ap.stand…@min.net>,

    Joseph Huesmann <stand…@min.net> wrote:
    >In article <slrn9qgf89.76g.punis…@xs4.xs4all.nl>, martin wrote:
    >>You forget, smart boy, that these terrorist call themselves
    >>Moslims, but in fact they aren’t. They just need an excuse to
    >>fight.

    >>You want to place US vs Islam ? There’s quite a lot of them, ya know…

    >Yeah, but once you nuke Mecca, there won’t *be* any more Muslims.

    The Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD.  Does that mean there
    are no more Jews?  When the Taliban destroyed the ancient statues of
    the Buddha in Afghanistan, did that measurably decrease the number of
    Buddhists in the world?  If United Flight 93 had, hypothetically,
    reached the White House and destroyed it, would that mean that the US
    would no longer exist?  A symbol of a belief is not the belief itself,
    and if you want to give every Muslim in the world an enormously
    personal and legitimate cause for jihad against the US, I don’t think
    it really matters whether you still call them "Muslims" or not.


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  13. admin says:

    "Russy" <russand…@qwest.net> wrote in message

    news:hSVp7.21$DI4.36350@news.uswest.net…

    > I still say building solar power sats built of metals and silicon in
    orbit,
    > from naturally occuring materials there, microwaving this this energy down
    > here to build the ‘hydrogen economy’ from cracked water is the way to go.
    > Use oil to make things, not burn it.

    Why isn’t this man President?!?  Russy, go for it, you got my vote!

  14. admin says:

    Russy wrote:
    > I still say building solar power sats built of metals and silicon in orbit,
    > from naturally occuring materials there, microwaving this this energy down
    > here to build the ‘hydrogen economy’ from cracked water is the way to go.
    > Use oil to make things, not burn it.

    I suppose this also takes into account the large amounts of silicon and metals
    on the moon. Building a magnetic cannon to shoot packets into orbit can be done
    far less expensivley than trying to shoot bulk metal and silicon into space
    from earth.

    Gandalf  Parker

  15. admin says:

    martin wrote:
    > In article <slrn9qgvi5.6ap.stand…@min.net>, Joseph Huesmann wrote:
    > > In article <slrn9qgf89.76g.punis…@xs4.xs4all.nl>, martin wrote:
    > >>You forget, smart boy, that these terrorist call themselves
    > >>Moslims, but in fact they aren’t. They just need an excuse to
    > >>fight.

    > >>You want to place US vs Islam ? There’s quite a lot of them, ya know…

    > > Yeah, but once you nuke Mecca, there won’t *be* any more Muslims.

    > Instead, you get angry ex-muslims. Not exactly an improvement.

    Takes alittle more that that.
    You gonna bomb Turkey too?
    Remember they are a member of NATO. I think the agreement reads "bomb one of
    us you bomb all of us". I dont think even the great USA could win that fight.

    Gandalf  Parker

  16. admin says:

    That day, Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:57:25 -0500 dawned fine and sunny in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim, and  rrevved says to me…
    > http://www.politicalusa.com/columnists/guest_columns/wheeler_005_prin

    > Nuke Mecca
    > And other sane ideas for world peace

    <snip>

    >  One of the most important is to launch a serious
    > demand for Arab Democracy.

    Ah, I get it, kind of "Nuke the Vote", right?


    WildStyle24_7

    "You do your worst, and we will do our best."
    -Winston Churchill

  17. admin says:

    It’s all ready near earth orbit with a delta v of 125 mph (car speed) don’t
    even need to toss it up from the moon at about 5000 mph.

    If I only had Bill Gates ear –

    and LEO at $1500 a ton

    "Gandalf Parker" <"postmaster"@[127.0.0.1] (spam THIS sucker!)> wrote in
    message news:tqi1t0m9o6db26@news.supernews.com…

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    > Russy wrote:

    > > I still say building solar power sats built of metals and silicon in
    orbit,
    > > from naturally occuring materials there, microwaving this this energy
    down
    > > here to build the ‘hydrogen economy’ from cracked water is the way to
    go.
    > > Use oil to make things, not burn it.

    > I suppose this also takes into account the large amounts of silicon and
    metals
    > on the moon. Building a magnetic cannon to shoot packets into orbit can be
    done
    > far less expensivley than trying to shoot bulk metal and silicon into
    space
    > from earth.

    > Gandalf  Parker

  18. admin says:

    Nuking Mecca would be like stirring a bee’s nest while naked and covered in
    pollen. Just like the ‘Bubba’ Clinton cruise missile attack three years ago
    brought Penttbomb on us.

    Getting the true believers in the universal peace and love that is the basic
    direction of Islam (the vast majority of them) to ignore the misguided
    people that are preparing the next TERRORist activity is the most important
    thing to do.

    Any ideas on how to do that?

    "WildStyle24_7" <WildStyle2…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

    news:MPG.1613251febafe04f98a486@news.cis.dfn.de…
    > That day, Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:57:25 -0500 dawned fine and sunny in
    > comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim, and  rrevved says to me…

    http://www.politicalusa.com/columnists/guest_columns/wheeler_005_prin

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    > > Nuke Mecca
    > > And other sane ideas for world peace
    > <snip>

    > >  One of the most important is to launch a serious
    > > demand for Arab Democracy.

    > Ah, I get it, kind of "Nuke the Vote", right?

    > —
    > WildStyle24_7

    > "You do your worst, and we will do our best."
    > -Winston Churchill

  19. admin says:

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    comstar <coms…@optushome.com.au> wrote in message <news:3BA856D8.6BD24C75@optushome.com.au>…
    > rrevved wrote:

    > > http://www.politicalusa.com/columnists/guest_columns/wheeler_005_prin

    > > Nuke Mecca
    > > And other sane ideas for world peace

    >     Juding from the cross posting here, I think the answer is obvois-

    >     Put Sid Mier in charge of all Allied Forces, build about 50 Xwing Star
    > Fighers, supported by 4 Squadrens of Block 52 F16′s, some arms traders to
    > supply Xray Lasers, and draft the west’s polulation of CounterStrike Players,
    > and we win.

    >     War won. Now, can we go back to exterimnating the population of Alpha
    > Centuri?

    Come on, you know if Sid did this, all it would take is a group of
    pikemen and some luck, and all those units your propose attacking
    would go down in a puff of smoke.  For proof of this, see battleship
    vs Pikemen!

    - Richard Hutnik :-)

  20. admin says:

    Richard Hutnik wrote:
    > Come on, you know if Sid did this, all it would take is a group of
    > pikemen and some luck, and all those units your propose attacking
    > would go down in a puff of smoke.  For proof of this, see battleship
    > vs Pikemen!

    BAH!  Your puny battleship is no match for my powerful nuclear xray
    gamma extra power gold version 2.0 ultra pike men!